tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936637281134795592.post4772971444752082056..comments2024-03-08T08:55:52.985-08:00Comments on Whispers from the Edge of the Rainforest: MAC-gate: What actually happened here? It's time for a press conference to se the record straight - UpdatedUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger44125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936637281134795592.post-86332191017467044192013-02-19T07:40:18.671-08:002013-02-19T07:40:18.671-08:00Yes...the market is back!Yes...the market is back!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936637281134795592.post-89085643868736884212013-02-19T01:09:18.393-08:002013-02-19T01:09:18.393-08:00Employees being forced to leave MAC Marketing empl...Employees being forced to leave MAC Marketing employment off their resume and lie about the gap out of shame of the company's conduct... Yeah, that's sounds brilliant. <br /><br />Well, we know already that the MAC employees are all good liars so they can probably pull it off. Brilliant plan.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936637281134795592.post-5031262558167249712013-02-19T00:57:03.787-08:002013-02-19T00:57:03.787-08:00MAC will just change their name to something else ...MAC will just change their name to something else and market condos under a different name. Any suggestions? CAM Marketing...hmm too obvious. How about MacNeil Marketing...or FAB (Fake Asian Buyer) Marketing, no better yet, simply Rennie Marketing will be fine.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936637281134795592.post-48926067813680592632013-02-19T00:42:25.639-08:002013-02-19T00:42:25.639-08:00Vancouver Homeowner mindthink:
"Fake Asian b...Vancouver Homeowner mindthink:<br /><br />"Fake Asian buyers? Hmmmm sounds bad. But maybe they want to buy my house. Honey, call the realtor. The markets back!"Captain Vancouvernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936637281134795592.post-83978003884205805422013-02-19T00:36:58.615-08:002013-02-19T00:36:58.615-08:00The 70% who own homes are saying "Nya nya nya...The 70% who own homes are saying "Nya nya nya I can't hear you. Asians want to pay $3 million for my tear down".<br /><br />It's amazing how deafness can be selective. I have spoken with a few home owning folks who are surprised to hear prices are falling, then change the subject. Your friends didn't want to hear.<br /><br />It's lonely in the 30%. Joe Mainlandernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936637281134795592.post-88658025238706739882013-02-19T00:35:14.852-08:002013-02-19T00:35:14.852-08:00Companies that are guilty, and don't apologize...Companies that are guilty, and don't apologize, don't recover. The key for MAC is to craft an apology that doesn't expose them to additional liability. I think this proves to be difficult (because they know they're guilty) so they are doing nothing. Their options are limited. I disagree. The public, the media...all have very long memories.<br /><br />The apology provided thus far by MAC falls flat; and hence, to backlash some bloggers, media and supporters are fanning the flames. Sort of a modern day version of medieval public fruit bashing or public hangings.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936637281134795592.post-88837476545376827492013-02-18T23:15:50.191-08:002013-02-18T23:15:50.191-08:00I tend to agree with the above poster. MAC's ...I tend to agree with the above poster. MAC's biggest ally is time. I think they are staying low key until the public (not blogs like this, but joe public) forgets. Making a public apology or investigation only attracts attention. MAC is waiting for the fire to die out, so we need to keep the flame going. We need to tell our own networks what is going on here. I doubt MSM will do anything proactively and bite the hand that feeds them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936637281134795592.post-84615903333522788632013-02-18T23:07:34.959-08:002013-02-18T23:07:34.959-08:00Mr 1025
Employees can always find work in the futu...Mr 1025<br />Employees can always find work in the future in other RE companies.If they chose a different field of work they can delete Mac from their resume and say they left the country for a few years or "took time off to travel the world".I have seen this happen before with co-workers who have been fired ,a couple even for theft .A few years down the road I ran into them again and they have found better higher paying jobs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936637281134795592.post-83570560772790601972013-02-18T22:31:08.060-08:002013-02-18T22:31:08.060-08:00I can test to the above: personally feel nauseous ...I can test to the above: personally feel nauseous and disgusted whenever I drive by a MAC Marketing Solutions real estate project. <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936637281134795592.post-54713905733548902422013-02-18T22:25:58.208-08:002013-02-18T22:25:58.208-08:00How will current employees ever seek gainful emplo...How will current employees ever seek gainful employment in the future? So what if MAC gives them a letter of commendation. All one has to do is look at the dates of employment and the projects the person worked on, and put two-and-two together. <br /><br />And hey, well, if the employee tries to lie about his/her involvement the said potential new employer later investigates and finds out this person was lying (gee, that would be a shocker), this person will lose out on potentially great new employment opportunities. <br /><br />No, no Mr. 9:48 pm, I dont think you thought through the various permutations and repercussions. And quite frankly, neither did any of MAC's employees or mgmt when they planned and executed this ridiculous blunder. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936637281134795592.post-28947535081611450652013-02-18T22:20:55.741-08:002013-02-18T22:20:55.741-08:00To the person who wrote at 9.48 pm directly above....To the person who wrote at 9.48 pm directly above....bearish indeed. The damage to MAC's reputation is immeasurable. I guarantee if the company had conducted a pre-crisis and post-crisis market survey, you'd find a huge change in:<br /><br />- public sentiment (leaning toward the strongly negative)<br /><br />- attitude <br /><br />- behaviour (meaning that buyers will be more cautious in trusting anything this company says and act more cautiously in their dealings with them)<br /><br />Okay, not convinced? Let's talk dollars and sense.<br /><br />Developers may decide to not hire MAC for future projects because they don't want their own company's good name marred with MAC's tarnished reputation. How many hundreds of thousands of dollars will this cost the company in lost future business?<br /><br />What about the cost to the company in lost productivity, morale, degradation of corporate culture? <br /><br />MAC is being investigated by the Real Estate Council (fines would only be $20K and some possible license suspensions) and the Competition Bureau, which could result in significant costs upwards of $1M. <br /><br />The legal and other advisory fees that MAC must be incurring is likely costly too.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936637281134795592.post-61852917803629006902013-02-18T21:48:16.153-08:002013-02-18T21:48:16.153-08:00Look, nothing will happen yo MAC. They will contin...Look, nothing will happen yo MAC. They will continue on and will forget this even happened. The only people that care are the bubble bloggers and we are a small community. We are considered the doomers to the rest of the real estate world. Village Whisperer, i appreciate your work, but I think you're really wasting your time. Nothing will happen here, I bet my balls on this! Any one else feel the same way?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936637281134795592.post-36376066173652967082013-02-18T18:17:25.110-08:002013-02-18T18:17:25.110-08:00I mentioned "Home Section of the newspapers&q... I mentioned "Home Section of the newspapers" not Business Section.Regardless the income is still there and that is what the problem is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936637281134795592.post-55145585207777980532013-02-18T16:50:04.737-08:002013-02-18T16:50:04.737-08:00To answered question above 'Anyone know if thi...To answered question above 'Anyone know if this fraud has been exposed to the chinese sites in China as well. At least the potential chinese buyer should be aware that they are also paying for the scam as well.'.<br /><br />Yes, it is on Chinese newspaper as well online major Chinese online websites over the weekend!<br /><br />As a Chinese from Mainland China and also actively looking for the property to purchase, I am sure I won't buy anything that MAC is their agent and also will do the detailed check myself. Thanks for Whisperer's hard work!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936637281134795592.post-65033350028113479542013-02-18T16:48:35.759-08:002013-02-18T16:48:35.759-08:00Exactly! No one here in BC cares..this is not on p...Exactly! No one here in BC cares..this is not on people's minds..But..since 70% of people own homes..they should care! Until MSM starts telling the other side of the story..no one will listen..too late by thenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936637281134795592.post-8285478405770582022013-02-18T16:31:10.282-08:002013-02-18T16:31:10.282-08:00Wrong. Realtards are going after their own interes...Wrong. Realtards are going after their own interest-more sells more commission at any costAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936637281134795592.post-18807663486046634162013-02-18T16:25:59.196-08:002013-02-18T16:25:59.196-08:00BullCrap! The Vancouver Sun and Province make mill...BullCrap! The Vancouver Sun and Province make millions from the Condo developers and their full page ads. The full page furniture and kitchen ads. The realtor ads. The pullout sections. Global 6pm news is sponsored by ReMax. CKNW and the rest are filled with ads for HELOCS. The Georgia Straight seems to exist solely on condo ads.<br /><br />A few of them were forced to acknowledge the MAC scam because of the sheer social media velocity. But they are all out with their pumping advertorial style of repeating every press release from the GVREB, BCREA, UID CREA. <br /><br />After the initial shock of getting caught the trolls will be out in force on this site. and the other blogs. They've already attacked Reddit attempting to ban any real estate stories from /r/vancoubver. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936637281134795592.post-34649520823737209722013-02-18T16:25:54.320-08:002013-02-18T16:25:54.320-08:00I asked my friends in BC if they knew anything abo...I asked my friends in BC if they knew anything about this and none had heard. Clearly, the only ones who care are the bubble bloggers. MAC's best response is to say nothing, stay quiet, and continue business as usual which is apparently what they are doing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936637281134795592.post-65808647709455061132013-02-18T15:25:52.468-08:002013-02-18T15:25:52.468-08:00When a true buyer was uncomfortable going on camer...When a true buyer was uncomfortable going on camera, an employee stepped in for them and behaved EXACTLY the way buyers do.<br />---------------<br />So what you're saying is:<br /><br />"Why worry what the truth is, just as long the condo marketing firm provides viewers with a acted-out scene which matches our view of reality"?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07940948125852748584noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936637281134795592.post-31011616659033753192013-02-18T14:55:02.765-08:002013-02-18T14:55:02.765-08:00The silence is deafening !The silence is deafening !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936637281134795592.post-85843220288076410932013-02-18T14:47:07.130-08:002013-02-18T14:47:07.130-08:00"An employee stepped in for them and behaved ..."An employee stepped in for them and behaved EXACTLY the way buyers do."<br /><br />Your comment is idiotic and reinforces to me the kind of people MAC hires...Honey, you just don't get it, do you? So sad.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936637281134795592.post-22990344119536421122013-02-18T14:43:26.596-08:002013-02-18T14:43:26.596-08:00Everyone in the Sales Centre knew about this shena...Everyone in the Sales Centre knew about this shenanigan and did nothing about it...before, during or after it happened. <br /><br />Well done showing the blonde MAC sales rep and Nic Jensen. It proves that Cameron's media response was dishonest. He played dumb about what happened, and even if he truly didnt know (which is so unlikely), the players are all captured on camera! <br /><br />What does old Cammo say about this now? This behaviour and brazen culture stems from the top and pervades lower ranks. So disrespectful to the public and the media. <br /><br />It's interesting...the longer he lies low, the less credible his company looks. Who on earth is counseling MAC? Anyone know who the company's external advisors are -- PR, legal, executive coaching, sales, etc? Surely they were invited to the Cube Awards or something. <br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936637281134795592.post-32318446130664622772013-02-18T14:35:39.075-08:002013-02-18T14:35:39.075-08:00Maybe the community papers play this game, but the...Maybe the community papers play this game, but the major dailies do not. Perhaps the shallow New Homes section publishes fluff but the Business sections do not. They look for legitimate news. I am in PR, I have pitched both sections numerous times, and my story ideas have been accepted and declined on behalf of clients. They do NOT accept stories because a company buys advertising. There are far bigger customers in advertising that project marketers -- Rogers, Telus, the big banks, large retailers. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936637281134795592.post-70906124880343503402013-02-18T14:30:18.048-08:002013-02-18T14:30:18.048-08:00Whisperer, you are doing fabulous work here. Pleas...Whisperer, you are doing fabulous work here. Please keep it up. I fear though that Cameron is just waiting for the general public to move on and forget about this entire affair (and that appears to be what is happening right now). Silence is the best move for MAC right now, not coming clean. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936637281134795592.post-6910065996559827862013-02-18T14:20:14.446-08:002013-02-18T14:20:14.446-08:00MAC is in damage control mode....hired legal help ...MAC is in damage control mode....hired legal help will spint things a bit. MAC is sorry it was exposed, but that is where the "sorry" ends.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com