So I was sitting in a cafe near Canada Place this morning with a group of 'friends of friends' who had just finished running the Vancouver Marathon (or in their case... the half marathon) and the topic turned to real estate.
One astute member for the 'friends of friends' clan was explaining to a colleague about why downtown condo prices, which have been falling recently, will continue to fall.
Our table was long, but my ears had not deceived me. The bear case was being eloquently laid out!
Listening in, my heart shone as this learned individual explained the current market dynamics.
It wasn't long before your faithful scribe chimed in about the impending OSFI changes to LTV mortgage renewals to complete the discussion when he turned and said, "ah... so you know all to well what's going on!"
Indeed... and clearly I'm not alone as one glance at the weekend papers indicate enlightenment isn't just occurring in local cafe's.
For several years now this, and other blogs, have ruminated that the phenomena of HAM (Hot Asian Money) was not a panacea to the everlasting inflation of our housing bubble.
And as the Spring market fails to materialize, it becoming very evident to all that Chinese buyers are not going to save the market.
It's so evident that even the local newspaper columnist Frances Bula is now writing about it.
Bula writes that the:
"boom of sky-high prices for Vancouver west-side houses – one that provoked media around the world to claim with scant proof that mainland Chinese investors were buying up the city – is fizzling out."
Bula notes that a house in the 3000 block of West 24th Anenue, first listed at near $4.5-million six months ago, sold on April 15 for $3.35-million, over $1 million chopped off the asking price.
Fresh statistics from the Greater Vancouver Real Estate Board show the number of sales on the west side is down by nearly 40% for the first four months of the year. Only a third of the nearly 400 homes listed in April have sold – one of the lowest rates in the region.
And Bula quotes west-side realtor Marty Pospischil, who specializes in selling single-family homes owned by long-term residents, who says that last year, 90% of his 100 house sales were to “offshore buyers”. This year, it’s less than a tenth of that.
Pospischil also noted:
“We’re now seeing a 50% collapse rate in deals, when it’s usually more like 5%.”
The reason?
In addition to the lack of money flowing from China, there is another factor hitting sales hard.
“Banks are now requiring borrowers to disclose incomes and assets before mortgages are approved, as of the last six weeks.”
Meanwhile Bula quotes another west side realtor, who specializes in single family homes. He notes:
“I always thought that market was not sustainable. Every local person was juiced out of the market. The average household income on the west side doesn’t support those prices.”
Wow!
Not that we haven't been saying the exact same thing.
But to see these types of headlines coming from mainstream media in the Vancouver real estate scene, it tells you this is a market in trouble.
For if HAM is evaporating, mortgage rules are tightening and local incomes can't support the current bubble prices; it means there is only one way the market can go.
As long time residents painlessly slash $1 million dollars off those sky high prices for homes they only paid $60,000 to $80,000 for back in the mid-1970s, you have to wonder how long before the free-fall in prices starts?
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I think anyone expecting this to unwind quickly is going to be disappointed. I thought it was possible in 2008-2009, to have a quick crash while large parts of the economy kept going. But the amount of real estate lending has been truly massive. It dwarfed government stimulus and the export boom to China, both of which were unsustainable. I see no way out now, and we have large portions of the economy running on credit from real estate. It's a huge portion of the money supply, so if that contracts we are going to have a big problem everywhere. This is one sick puppy.
ReplyDelete"Thus the collapse. And thus the rule, supported by the experience of centuries: The speculative episode always ends not with a whimper but with a bang." - John Kenneth Galbraith A Short History of Financial Euphoria.
Delete^ The disease is more like a cancer, than that of a heart attack. A slow unwind would actually be best for nearly all involved... people thinking they are getting great deals at a 10% discount will bouy the market at each discount. Good point about how much of the economy is based on the housing market. That, right there, is what strong real estate gives you... the ability to start businessess. Will be very interesting to see what becomes of most of the 20000 job descriptions that were created in the last 20 years.
ReplyDeleteThis will be an epic drop that will have have only greater fools knife-catching at different elevations. If you are planning on selling do it now because incomes do not support prices.
ReplyDeleteGreat one again whisperer.
p.s.
raises for the exec, layoffs for everyone else
You wonder why the system is broken? Wages down south are going to be flat for years. Its hard to ask for a raise for fear of being thrown under the bus.
Ya just gotta love those realtors who were such cheerleaders last year now solemnly proclaiming the boom is likely over. And of cource they saw it coming.
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